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Poster: midnight sun Date: May 1, 2008 1:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star Crashes

hey Alan, thanks for the reply

just to clarify; yes, at an early age Drake did assist Hawkins in the English slave trade...however, once in command himself, Drake formed a partnership with the Cimarrones (runaway African slaves in the Panama region) in "privateering" against the Spanish, going as far as to turn around and protect the Spaniards they had captured from the unspeakable cruelties the Cimarrones sought to inflict on their former masters

the attack in Ireland was not conducted by Drake and the extent of his prior knowledge of, or his involvement in enabling the heinous slaughter remains unclear

Drake's men fought to the death, knowing that surrender to the Spanish would have surely led to torture and execution...on the other hand, the Spaniards, more often than not, easily surrendered to Drake knowing they would be treated with respect and have their lives spared...whether this was an act of humanity or just good strategy is open to interpretation...for the most part, he took from the Spaniards what the Spaniards themselves took when they mercilessly massacred the Incas

you are right though, we need to keep in mind that all of the European explorations into the new world were far from benign or altruistic...not the least being the widespread devastation the natives suffered, caused by the introduction of European diseases


i like how you compare Sir Francis with the future myth of Captain James T...except i don't remember a band aboard the Enterprise (?) other than Spock treating us to the occasional Vulcan lute solo :)

good rap!

This post was modified by midnight sun on 2008-05-01 08:37:32

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Poster: Jerrob Hungar Date: May 1, 2008 6:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star Crashes

Aha! Now I know where The Cimarons got their name! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cimarons
The Cimarons were originally Jamaican natives and session musicians who worked with artists like Jimmy Cliff. They emigrated to the UK in 1967 and they were the backing band for many of the touring Jamaican artists during the late 60s and 70s. And, of course, they recorded with Bob Marley who knew a good thing when he heard it.
Just to bring this full circle, I believe they played on The Vulcans album, Star Trek!

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Poster: midnight sun Date: May 1, 2008 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star Crashes

whoa!!! full circle indeed...good one!

hmmm, those reggae guitar rhythms do sound a lot like pizzicato viol technique (???) throw in some ingestible and combustibles brought to the party by their nearby Yaqui friends and i do believe we have the first world beat prankster jam session

i wish i was a violist, on a north-west bound ship...